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jtrobiani
Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: Does this sound like a scam? |
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I am currently selling puppies on kijiji. I was contacted via email by a person who wants to do the following:
She is sending me a cashiers check/money order for the cost of the dog plus shipping money. Once I cash those, I am supposed to send the extra money via Western Union to the shipping company and they will do the rest (pick up the puppy and ship him out). I am a bit skeptical because it took over a month for the money to arrive to me. Also because of the amount extra that was sent (the price for the puppy was 500 and she sent me 2500). Has anybody ever heard of anything like this or does it sound legit? |
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puppyluv8805
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 678 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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SCAM
if I am reading you right -- you said you already have the check in hand? you can take it to your bank and have them investigate it but i will tell you that this reads like EVERY scam alert I have ever read.  |
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jtrobiani
Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| The money orders came in today while I was at work. My husband called and told me. They are for $500 each (5 of them) from Circle K (all in numerical order). |
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puppyluv8805
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 678 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'd have your bank check them out before you try to cash them or any thing.
I mean -- what person in their right mind would send you $2000 more than what you were asking? and then, actually trust you to return the overage??
Just... have your bank check them out or if you can... contact Circle K main office and ask them if those m/o are legit. |
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babybrat
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: do not cash those checks! |
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| Please check the validity of those checks. You can be opening yourself for a wide variety of problems. Including bad check fees. Save yourself the heartache and investigate, |
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puppyluv8805
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 678 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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I found this info just now on another site abt how to avoid being scammed
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Use a payment method with fraud protection
We highly advise AGAINST sending payment via wire transfer. Many fraudulent sellers only accept money by wire transfer, Money Gram, or bank transfer because buyers cannot get their money back and sellers cannot be tracked. If you are within the US and must pay by money order, we suggest using a postal money order. Postal money orders can be investigated, while other money orders cannot. |
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What are the things that potentially fraudulent buyers do?
* Ask you to wire money into their account.
* Buyer offers high-value (but fake) cashier's check in exchange for your for sale item. The value of cashier's check often far exceeds your item and the buyer asks you to wire the balance via money transfer service. Banks will often cash these fake checks AND THEN HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE WHEN THE CHECK FAILS TO CLEAR . Scam often involves a 3rd party (shipping agent, business associate owing buyer money). We would strongly discourage you from wiring money.
* Recommend an unfamiliar escrow or payment service.
* Place large orders to be sent to a foreign location.
* Say they will pay you half of what's due before they receive the item, and half payment afterwards.
* Will not provide you a verifiable telephone number.
* Pay with an international credit card or cashier's check. |
I hope this helps protect you! |
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jtrobiani
Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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OK, you were right. It was a huge scam. The purchase price of the puppy was $500, I was sent $2500 in money orders. I was supposed to send $2000 to the shipping company via Western Union. Well, I called Moneygram just now and they let me know that they were all invalid money orders and about the security features on the checks that I could look at!! I am so glad that I didn't fall for this. From now on its locals only for me
What is your opinion, should I contact the authorities and give them all of the information that I have? Who should I call?
FYI....if you ever receive an email from Patty Williams (petlover007@yahoo.com), please don't fall for her story!!! |
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puppyluv8805
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 678 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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What is your opinion, should I contact the authorities and give them all of the information that I have? Who should I call? |
Definitely report any and all information you have.
Here's where & how
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Filing a Complaint with IC3
IC3 accepts online Internet crime complaints from either the person who believes they were defrauded or from a third party to the complainant. We can best process your complaint if we receive accurate and complete information from you. Therefore, we request that you provide the following information when filing a complaint:
Your name
Your mailing address
Your telephone number
The name, address, telephone number, and Web address, if available, of the individual or organization you believe defrauded you.
Specific details on how, why, and when you believe you were defrauded.
Any other relevant information you believe is necessary to support your complaint.
http://www.ic3.gov/
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Also report it to Kijiji
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| Please be aware of scammers and forward any associated email addresses you receive to the Kijiji Team - kijiji-us-support@kijiji.com - this way we can take action against these individuals. |
So glad you found out the truth  |
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jtrobiani
Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| I already filed that report yesterday. The scammer does not know that I know that they are fakes. She/he still thinks that I am going to wire the money on Friday:-) |
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JoJosAmstaffs
Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 966
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| Glad you didn't fall for it!!!!! These people are out of control I really hope someone puts an end to this. When it happened to me the red flag wasn't even the money it was the shipping I kept asking where the dog was going and why did a shipper have to come get her then I told them cash only. Never bothered me again. |
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Anfelface
Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 29 Location: Eastern Coast of Virginia, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: There is a way to check...very easily! |
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If I understand correctly, you have this cashier's check/money order in your possession. Somewhere on it is the financial institution that "certified" the funds, which should be able to be found under a simple google search!...Call them and ask them to and exactly this-"I need to verify funds", they will ask for the info and tell you what you need to know! The numbers along the bottom of the check are magnetic...and should appear in sets of 3, the first is the Banks routing number and if US, begins 0541....always, as it is a federal id number! The next set is the account number...the third should match the document number/check#...Do not cash this at your bank! If you take it to their bank or the Post Office if it is from there (as a money order...best way to go on those! Though still a big hassle!!) If the bank does not have a branch here, ask them who their "Sister" Bank is in your city/state...all banks have them...you are relieved of all financial responsibility if you have these funds cashed out by the "Writing" entity...if it's fake, they will know it! Your bank will be more than happy to deposit it and then come back for your head when it is returned some 3-10 days later and these folks r no where to be found and neither is your pet!
Bookkeeper by trade, I hope this helps out "EVERYBODY"
Angel!!
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Anfelface
Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 29 Location: Eastern Coast of Virginia, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: I should've read all the other replies b4 I spoke up! |
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puppyluv8805
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 678 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: I should've read all the other replies b4 I spoke up! |
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| :oops:Re: I should've read all the other replies b4 I spoke up! |
Hey thats ok because you gave some very helpful information! I am thinking of adding a fraud alert page to my website and your information would be excellent there! |
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sherriej
Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: scam? |
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| Don't feel bad, I have bassetts for sale. Got a call from "Joyce" in Alabama via a hearing impaired operator. Same routine as with you, only my check is 2700.00 for a 100.00 dog. The check comes from another person altogether and I did a reverse address to find out the person's name and actually called this person, but had to leave a message. Called the bank listed on the check Bank of America in Atlanta, routing number was bogus, acct was bogus. Called local sheriff office, there are so many of these type scams and they are so hard to prove as in many cases they originate out of your state or even country. Joyce's email was a yahoo acct. I am contracting my State attny General office as I was told that they have a division dealing with these type cases. I printed out all the emails from her and saved the check and envelope. I am not optimistic of results, but I am going to try anyway. It is a shame that there are people out there preying on others this way. |
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jtrobiani
Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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It just keeps going....got home yesterday from work and I had an envelope addressed to me from Africa. It had a cashier's check for $3500 made out to me wrapped in a plain white piece of paper...I have never even talked to anybody else out of state regarding a puppy....this just amazes me  |
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