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What would you have done???
Sue for damages?
17%
 17%  [ 4 ]
Go ahead and sell them the other puppy
0%
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Have them pay from the loss of the puppy and vet bills.
30%
 30%  [ 7 ]
Keep the deposit to cover some of the loss and not sell them a puppy
30%
 30%  [ 7 ]
give them the deposit back and not sell them a puppy
21%
 21%  [ 5 ]
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csmoses




Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Puppy sellers beware!!!! Reply with quote

I had a family from Grand Prairie, TX come to my house a few nights ago to see the puppies I have for sale. One of their young sons picked up one of the puppies and dropped it form about 1 ½ -2 feet off the ground, the puppy yell real loud. The Childs father saw him drop it and got on to him about it. They put a deposit on another puppy and left. The puppy ended up not being able to put weight on its back legs a few days later and one leg was swelled up real bad. I contacted the mother of the child and told her that it looked like the puppy had an injury from the fall. She instead of saying sorry or being concerned for the puppy had the nerve to call me a scam artist. I told her I would be taking the puppy to the vet the next day before noon to have a vet look at her. The vet said the puppy had trauma to it legs and low back. And that with the puppy being active it could have got worse over a few days from the fall. She told us all we could do at this point is try and nurse it back to health. The puppy got worse as the day went on and died late that night from its injury and shock. Sad Crying or Very sad

The Childs mother did not call to even check on the puppy, so I felt that with her lack of concern for the puppy, I would rather return the deposit to them and not sell them a puppy at all. She did not apologies for any of it!!!! Mad

So just a bit of advice: Do not let the kids pickup your puppies because they may end up injuring your puppies. Then u may have to deal with a person like this!!!
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chrishampton1




Joined: 06 Mar 2008
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: What would you have done....My reply... Reply with quote

Sad I'm so sorry for what happened to your puppy, First of all the parents should of been watching their child and not letting him pick up puppies and dropping them, and by all means they should be held accountable for the puppies Vet bill, and the price of the puppy.
If they would have got a puppy, who can say when they get it home this child is going to do the same thing again, to another puppy they purchase for anyone! Sounds like the child isn't old enough to have an animal in there house yet...." for the sake of the puppy"
Again, sorry for your lose.
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ValueForYou




Joined: 16 Sep 2007
Posts: 78
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Sorry... Reply with quote

I am truely sorry to hear about this unfortunate occurance. The parents definitely should have been watching their child. And if the child was too young to hold a puppy while standing, they should have had the child sit on the ground and hold it in its lap.

The parents were definitely thinking only of themselves and were not taking the responsibility of their actions or the lack there of. You shouldn't give up on what you think is the best way to go about this situation. They should be held responsible and be advised that right now might not be the best time for a puppy to enter the family.

And some people don't understand how fragile life is for babies... They should have known better.

Once again, I am truely broken hearted to hear about the death of one of your pups. I hope you all the best in getting this situation resolved for the betterment of you and your pups.

~~~Kristen~~~
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bullbleukennel




Joined: 01 Feb 2008
Posts: 21

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I truly believe that in this case it is not in your best interest to keep the money for the puppy. He could then turn around and sue you for loss of deposit. Even thousgh it was a direct connection. Take your vet bills and make copies of them to turn into a small claims court in your area. Also hav ethe vet tell you specifically why he thinks the puppy died, Was it in direct connection with being dropped? have the vet state that in writing and depending on what the vet tells you then take that to court as well. The vet is your best ALI in this. Make sur eyou get all your chicks in a row and document your best recollection of that day. Dates times and everything. The more accurate you are in the story, the more the judge will be able to believe you and not the father of the young boy. You have to be solid about it. Don't waver from anything you write down. But do not sound rehearsed either. Just tell him what happened as you remember it. I hope it all works out for you. As far as what you should sue him for, take the average asking price of the litter and wether or not you could have used that puppy in your own kennel as a breedable dog. If you could have kept that puppy to enrich your line than that makes it that much more valuable. You would then ask for whatever you could have gotten out of athe next litter from that dog that died.I wouldn't ask for too much, vet bills and maybe the price of one or two pupps, just to make it worth your while to go to court.
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ValueForYou




Joined: 16 Sep 2007
Posts: 78
Location: USA

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: you do have a point... Reply with quote

Bullbleukennel does have a point.

In cases such as this where it can not be taken care of simply, having everything in writing and especially having the vet specifically state why the puppy died is important. I wouldn't let these people get away with this. They should be held accountable for their actions.

You know that is a big problem today in this world. People do things all the time and both don't expect to take responsibility or aren't held responsible to their own actions. It's sad but true.

I hope if you take this sad situation a step further in bringing it to court, that you have the upper hand and everything works out for you and you only, that those people do not get let off on the easy streek.

~~~ Kristen ~~~
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kayskennels




Joined: 30 Aug 2007
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bullbleukennel wrote:
I truly believe that in this case it is not in your best interest to keep the money for the puppy. He could then turn around and sue you for loss of deposit. Even thousgh it was a direct connection. Take your vet bills and make copies of them to turn into a small claims court in your area. Also hav ethe vet tell you specifically why he thinks the puppy died, Was it in direct connection with being dropped? have the vet state that in writing and depending on what the vet tells you then take that to court as well. The vet is your best ALI in this. Make sur eyou get all your chicks in a row and document your best recollection of that day. Dates times and everything. The more accurate you are in the story, the more the judge will be able to believe you and not the father of the young boy. You have to be solid about it. Don't waver from anything you write down. But do not sound rehearsed either. Just tell him what happened as you remember it. I hope it all works out for you. As far as what you should sue him for, take the average asking price of the litter and wether or not you could have used that puppy in your own kennel as a breedable dog. If you could have kept that puppy to enrich your line than that makes it that much more valuable. You would then ask for whatever you could have gotten out of athe next litter from that dog that died.I wouldn't ask for too much, vet bills and maybe the price of one or two pupps, just to make it worth your while to go to court.
you can not hold them liable for anything but the puppy and the vet bills you cant sue them for future offspring. you were selling the puppys so they couldnt be that valuable to u as the breeder!!!!!!!!!!! everyone is out for a dime. i am a breeder accidents happen. if a child dropped my pup it would be on me because #1 the breeder should have spoken up and ask the child not to be picking up the pups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lady_pearl




Joined: 07 Jan 2008
Posts: 968
Location: bfe

PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lady's going to do whatever she feels is right. Even though IMO it was her fault for letting the kid carry around the pup in the first place,.
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doglover
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Selling pets on Kijiji Reply with quote

Any responsible breeder would not use a site like Kijiji to sell their pups. I do not think this is the type of forum to find homes for pets. All prospective dog or puppy owners should have some kind of background done before allowing them to take a live animal. I'm sorry to see that Kijiji is allowing sales of animals.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

workinggsd wrote:
How, old was the kid?

Why, was he allowed to pick up the puppy?

Who, is responsible?

Actually both of you!

Why? You as the breeder should not allow any young child pick up the puppy. If in which a kid wants to pick up puppy he sits in the floor with the dog. If that's not a good idea then they do not need a puppy!

I would not bother giving them thier deposit back as I would not sell them a pup. Done, they did not care about the pup that was injured and actually looked at another pup after the first pup was injured. So no returned deposits and not one puppy sold to them!

I hope you don't take this wrong it is not to be directed as a personal attack or anything. I have been breeding and training gsd, and Dob's for many years and not one child was allowed to hold and or pick up any of my babies. It takes on slip and bang injuries all over the place. Thanks for reading!


I have to agree,
I had a friend of my brothers cousins sister's friend who always
makes sure that anyone who wants to hold a puppy
adult or child they sit down first its safer and as a breeder
its upto you to make sure no harm comes to your puppies.
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guest
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: What I would do. Reply with quote

If I were you I'd get a real job instead of using living beings for cash flow.
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BeenThere2




Joined: 01 May 2008
Posts: 229
Location: North

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have kept the deposit and let the person know that their application for a pup has been rejected. If the kids did that much damage in a matter of minutes what is going to happen when they get a pup home. What kind of dog?
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duckslilgoose




Joined: 01 May 2008
Posts: 96
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: What I would do. Reply with quote

guest wrote:
If I were you I'd get a real job instead of using living beings for cash flow.


I'm sorry but, nowhere did he say he's using them for cash flow... It could have been an accidential breeding... I don't think he put anything in there about being a breeder did he?
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lady_pearl




Joined: 07 Jan 2008
Posts: 968
Location: bfe

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What I would do. Reply with quote

duckslilgoose wrote:
guest wrote:
If I were you I'd get a real job instead of using living beings for cash flow.


I'm sorry but, nowhere did he say he's using them for cash flow... It could have been an accidential breeding... I don't think he put anything in there about being a breeder did he?



your dogs are cute BTW =-))
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not sell them a puppy and give the deposit back. I'm sorry this happened to that poor puppy. A terrible lesson about protecting your pups from dumb parents.
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jojogal




Joined: 03 May 2008
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Selling pets on Kijiji Reply with quote

doglover wrote:
Any responsible breeder would not use a site like Kijiji to sell their pups. I do not think this is the type of forum to find homes for pets. All prospective dog or puppy owners should have some kind of background done before allowing them to take a live animal. I'm sorry to see that Kijiji is allowing sales of animals.


Well, I have a puppy for sale on here. He will NOT go to a person's home before I have been to the person's home to check out living arrangements, room, finding out how many hours each person in the household works, and if they have time to train a puppy. Finding out if they have other pets that could potentially harm my baby. Making sure there are no young children in the home... Must I continue?

My puppy will go nowhere without a complete and throrough interview done, over the phone, and then in the "prospective owners" home. I do not ship puppies, I do not sell through stores, and I ABSOLUTELY INSIST I come to them, not vice versa.

Plus, I keep up with anyone who has bought one of my puppies. I haven't bred much, but I turned down many breeders who offered to pay even more than what I was asking, because I had blue chihuahua puppies for sale. I don't care about the money, I just love watching them grow and change and learn and .... well, I just can't say how much I love a litter around... but.... and this is very important you know this. I even denied my best friend the puppy she wanted to buy from me because I firmly believed it was not the right match for her. Yes we fought, but that particular puppy went to a wonderful woman, who, close to 2 years later, still keeps in touch with me via phone, email, pics, etc. She even came into town a few months ago, (again, the puppy was not shipped. She lives 1 1/2 hours drive time from my home) just so I could see my puppy again. It was a beautiful reunion.

Ok, so I am new to Kijiji.. and as I wrote this, I started wondering, just what people ARE doing on here with puppies and dogs.

So if you have an answer to that question, please reply, I'd love to know the truth about cats and dogs.
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